From bluejay at speedfactory.net Tue Jun 7 05:18:28 2005 From: bluejay at speedfactory.net (Jim Seymour) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 05:18:28 -0400 Subject: sync-plan and palm help needed Message-ID: <20050607091828.GB6653@speedfactory.net> I have been trying to sync my palm calendar with plan with no luck so far. I am running Debian Sarge and have all the current updates. Basically it looks like all the palm and the plan files are read, the messages indicate that data is being written and nothing has updated on either the palm or plan. I have tried several different netplan-acl setups. Currently I have: *: permit read write delete user 1000 I have also tried this leaving off the user, among other combinations. I have tried running netplan in debug mode however that didn't give me any clue as to what is happening. Any ideas out there as to what I am missing in setting up to use sync-plan? Thanks in advance, Jim Seymour -- I started using something better than the "standard" back when IBM advertised OS/2 Warp on TV. As Linux matured I made the transition from OS/2 v4 to Linux. You don't have to accept less than you deserve. "Use the Power of the Penguin" Registered Linux user #316735 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://pilot-link.org/pipermail/pilot-unix-ng/attachments/20050607/dc969bef/attachment.pgp From marklist at healeyonline.com Thu Jun 23 18:03:05 2005 From: marklist at healeyonline.com (Mark Healey) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:03:05 -0700 Subject: Can't build emulator Message-ID: <42BB3199.9030708@healeyonline.com> I Downloaded and extracted: emulator_src_3.5.tar.gz The instructions for the unix build say to run: ..../BuildUnix/configure which I try to do. When I do so I get the error message: configure: error: *** FLTK *must* be installed before running configure. *** The problem is that FLTK is installed. What's wrong? -- Mark Healey marklist at healeyonline.com From m.brodbelt at acu.ac.uk Thu Jun 23 18:42:38 2005 From: m.brodbelt at acu.ac.uk (Mike Brodbelt) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:42:38 +0100 (BST) Subject: Can't build emulator In-Reply-To: <42BB3199.9030708@healeyonline.com> References: <42BB3199.9030708@healeyonline.com> Message-ID: <44838.80.177.68.177.1119566558.squirrel@secure.acu.ac.uk> > I Downloaded and extracted: > > emulator_src_3.5.tar.gz > > The instructions for the unix build say to run: > > ..../BuildUnix/configure > > which I try to do. When I do so I get the error message: > > configure: error: *** FLTK *must* be installed before > running configure. *** > > The problem is that FLTK is installed. > > What's wrong? Many distros split FLTK into two packages, one containing the libraries, the other the development headers. Do you have the FLTK-dev package for your distribution installed? Mike. From marklist at healeyonline.com Thu Jun 23 19:29:57 2005 From: marklist at healeyonline.com (Mark Healey) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:29:57 -0700 Subject: Can't build emulator In-Reply-To: <44838.80.177.68.177.1119566558.squirrel@secure.acu.ac.uk> References: <42BB3199.9030708@healeyonline.com> <44838.80.177.68.177.1119566558.squirrel@secure.acu.ac.uk> Message-ID: <42BB45F5.6010509@healeyonline.com> Mike Brodbelt wrote: >>I Downloaded and extracted: >> >>emulator_src_3.5.tar.gz >> >>The instructions for the unix build say to run: >> >>..../BuildUnix/configure >> >>which I try to do. When I do so I get the error message: >> >>configure: error: *** FLTK *must* be installed before >>running configure. *** >> >>The problem is that FLTK is installed. >> >>What's wrong? > > > > Many distros split FLTK into two packages, one containing the libraries, > the other the development headers. As does Fedora, apparently Do you have the FLTK-dev package for > your distribution installed? I do now. Now the configure script runs without any errors but not when I try: ]make I get: ./../../SrcUnix/espws-2.0/FileBrowser.cxx: In member function `int FileBrowser::load(const char*)': ./../../SrcUnix/espws-2.0/FileBrowser.cxx:470: error: `filename_list' undeclared (first use this function) ./../../SrcUnix/espws-2.0/FileBrowser.cxx:470: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.) ./../../SrcUnix/espws-2.0/FileBrowser.cxx:483: error: `filename_isdir' undeclared (first use this function) ./../../SrcUnix/espws-2.0/FileBrowser.cxx:484: error: `filename_match' undeclared (first use this function) make[1]: *** [FileBrowser.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mark/palmdev/Emulator_Src_3.5/BuildUnix/espws-2.0' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Now what? -- Mark Healey marklist at healeyonline.com From hacker at gnu-designs.com Thu Jun 23 20:14:22 2005 From: hacker at gnu-designs.com (David A. Desrosiers) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:14:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Can't build emulator In-Reply-To: <42BB45F5.6010509@healeyonline.com> References: <42BB3199.9030708@healeyonline.com> <44838.80.177.68.177.1119566558.squirrel@secure.acu.ac.uk> <42BB45F5.6010509@healeyonline.com> Message-ID: > > Many distros split FLTK into two packages, one containing the > > libraries, the other the development headers. > As does Fedora, apparently > `/home/mark/palmdev/Emulator_Src_3.5/BuildUnix/espws-2.0' > make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > Now what? Why are you not using the rpm for Fedora? Why are you building from source? You'll have to do some heavy patching to get it working with the recent fltk and the conflicting gzip() function you'll get in the recent headers your system will call. David A. Desrosiers desrod at gnu-designs.com http://gnu-designs.com From voytek at sbt.net.au Fri Jun 24 01:17:08 2005 From: voytek at sbt.net.au (Voytek Eymont) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:17:08 +1000 (EST) Subject: ot: transferring files to/from over LAN connection Message-ID: <50811.203.102.233.24.1119590228.squirrel@203.102.233.24> now that I have a LAN connection (BT or WiFi), what are my options to transfer arbitrary/text files to/from the Palm: on the Palm ? on the PC ? -- Voytek From marklist at healeyonline.com Fri Jun 24 03:42:43 2005 From: marklist at healeyonline.com (Mark Healey) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:42:43 -0700 Subject: Can't build emulator In-Reply-To: References: <42BB3199.9030708@healeyonline.com> <44838.80.177.68.177.1119566558.squirrel@secure.acu.ac.uk> <42BB45F5.6010509@healeyonline.com> Message-ID: <42BBB973.2060205@healeyonline.com> David A. Desrosiers wrote: >>>Many distros split FLTK into two packages, one containing the >>>libraries, the other the development headers. > > >>As does Fedora, apparently > > >>`/home/mark/palmdev/Emulator_Src_3.5/BuildUnix/espws-2.0' >>make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 >> >>Now what? > > > Why are you not using the rpm for Fedora? Why are you building > from source? You'll have to do some heavy patching to get it working > with the recent fltk and the conflicting gzip() function you'll get in > the recent headers your system will call. Because it isn't mentioned on any of the individuals sites I looked at or on the Palmsource site. I did ]yum list palm and ]yum list Palm and got nothing. If there is a complete development package I'll go for it. Is there a site dedicated to Writing Palm apps on Fedora? -- Mark Healey marklist at healeyonline.com From jmarshall at users.sourceforge.net Fri Jun 24 05:54:43 2005 From: jmarshall at users.sourceforge.net (John Marshall) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:54:43 +1200 Subject: Can't build emulator In-Reply-To: <42BBB973.2060205@healeyonline.com> References: <42BB3199.9030708@healeyonline.com> <44838.80.177.68.177.1119566558.squirrel@secure.acu.ac.uk> <42BB45F5.6010509@healeyonline.com> <42BBB973.2060205@healeyonline.com> Message-ID: <0b1d063b4be82ead2d7788246fbd2dbb@users.sourceforge.net> On Jun 24, 2005, at 19:42, Mark Healey wrote: > David A. Desrosiers wrote: >> You'll have to do some heavy patching to get it working with the >> recent fltk and the conflicting gzip() function you'll get in the >> recent headers your system will call. The patches needed are not so terrifying, and are available from the Sourceforge project. The relevant thread on the relevant mailing list (namely emulator-forum) is http://news.palmos.com/read/messages?id=189359 (I am unfamiliar with the gzip() problem you mention.) >> Why are you not using the rpm for Fedora? Why are you building from >> source? [...] > Because it isn't mentioned on any of the individuals sites I looked at > or on the Palmsource site. Sigh. In the past, PalmSource's emulator page linked to Pose RPMs, but removing any useful Unix-related emulator details has been another of the "improvements" that came with the most recent reorganisation of their developer site. However I wonder if http://prc-tools.sourceforge.net/ was one of the individual sites you looked at. The information you are looking for is on the "Installation for RPM users" page. > ]yum list palm [...] > If there is a complete development package I'll go for it. If your yum still understands the old yum repository format, you can add http://prc-tools.sourceforge.net/install/ to your /etc/yum.repos or whatever it's called, and yum will be able to see pose, pilrc, prc-tools, etc RPMs. In any case, pre-built pose RPMs are available from http://sourceforge.net/projects/pose/ (and that site appears on the first page of Google results for various Palm OS Emulator searches), and are accessible via rpmfind.net. They were built on Red Hat 7.3, but still work fine on Fedora. John From bcs at metacon.ca Fri Jun 24 08:31:05 2005 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:31:05 -0300 Subject: ot: transferring files to/from over LAN connection In-Reply-To: <50811.203.102.233.24.1119590228.squirrel@203.102.233.24> References: <50811.203.102.233.24.1119590228.squirrel@203.102.233.24> Message-ID: <42BBFD09.5070104@metacon.ca> Voytek Eymont wrote: > now that I have a LAN connection (BT or WiFi), what are my options to > transfer arbitrary/text files to/from the Palm: > > on the Palm ? > on the PC ? > That depends largely on what model handheld you have. -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From voytek at sbt.net.au Fri Jun 24 08:47:15 2005 From: voytek at sbt.net.au (Voytek Eymont) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:47:15 +1000 (EST) Subject: ot: transferring files to/from over LAN connection In-Reply-To: <42BBFD09.5070104@metacon.ca> References: <50811.203.102.233.24.1119590228.squirrel@203.102.233.24> <42BBFD09.5070104@metacon.ca> Message-ID: <3235.220.240.54.97.1119617235.squirrel@220.240.54.97> Ben Steeves said: > Voytek Eymont wrote: >> now that I have a LAN connection (BT or WiFi), what are my options to >> transfer arbitrary/text files to/from the Palm: >> >> on the Palm ? >> on the PC ? > That depends largely on what model handheld you have. T3 with BT and (SDIO)WiFi -- Voytek From bcs at metacon.ca Fri Jun 24 08:48:08 2005 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:48:08 -0300 Subject: ot: transferring files to/from over LAN connection In-Reply-To: <3235.220.240.54.97.1119617235.squirrel@220.240.54.97> References: <50811.203.102.233.24.1119590228.squirrel@203.102.233.24> <42BBFD09.5070104@metacon.ca> <3235.220.240.54.97.1119617235.squirrel@220.240.54.97> Message-ID: <42BC0108.907@metacon.ca> Voytek Eymont wrote: > Ben Steeves said: > >>Voytek Eymont wrote: >> >>>now that I have a LAN connection (BT or WiFi), what are my options to >>>transfer arbitrary/text files to/from the Palm: >>> >>>on the Palm ? >>>on the PC ? > > >>That depends largely on what model handheld you have. > > > T3 with BT and (SDIO)WiFi > The link below should give you some pointers about BT -- WiFi is easiest to set up with a wireless router. http://www.metacon.ca/bcs/view.php?page=bluetooth -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From hacker at gnu-designs.com Fri Jun 24 08:54:26 2005 From: hacker at gnu-designs.com (David A. Desrosiers) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:54:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Can't build emulator In-Reply-To: <0b1d063b4be82ead2d7788246fbd2dbb@users.sourceforge.net> References: <42BB3199.9030708@healeyonline.com> <44838.80.177.68.177.1119566558.squirrel@secure.acu.ac.uk> <42BB45F5.6010509@healeyonline.com> <42BBB973.2060205@healeyonline.com> <0b1d063b4be82ead2d7788246fbd2dbb@users.sourceforge.net> Message-ID: > The patches needed are not so terrifying, and are available from the > Sourceforge project. The relevant thread on the relevant mailing > list (namely emulator-forum) is True, not terrifying, but they might be for those new to the Emulator project ;) > (I am unfamiliar with the gzip() problem you mention.) This is the one: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=303199 Applying the fix described at the bottom of the bug solved the problem in my case. I think its in the upstream pose package in Debian now as well. > If your yum still understands the old yum repository format, you can > add http://prc-tools.sourceforge.net/install/ to your /etc/yum.repos > or whatever it's called, and yum will be able to see pose, pilrc, > prc-tools, etc RPMs. Good thing to know, I'll remember that for future cases like this too when people ask about it. There is one caveat too, which many who head down this path run into very often: The emulator can't emulate OS5 devices. You'll need the Windows-only "Simulator" to do that. There is a new "emulator" being developed for the ARM and Cobalt line of devices which runs on Linux, but its VERY rough at the moment, and non-free (costs $99 to join the program to gain access to it). David A. Desrosiers desrod at gnu-designs.com http://gnu-designs.com From hacker at gnu-designs.com Fri Jun 24 08:57:14 2005 From: hacker at gnu-designs.com (David A. Desrosiers) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:57:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: ot: transferring files to/from over LAN connection In-Reply-To: <42BC0108.907@metacon.ca> References: <50811.203.102.233.24.1119590228.squirrel@203.102.233.24> <42BBFD09.5070104@metacon.ca> <3235.220.240.54.97.1119617235.squirrel@220.240.54.97> <42BC0108.907@metacon.ca> Message-ID: > The link below should give you some pointers about BT -- WiFi is > easiest to set up with a wireless router. > http://www.metacon.ca/bcs/view.php?page=bluetooth I've written a substantially more-detailed HOWTO on this topic over a year ago, which does go into detail about how to HotSync files over Bluetooth. You can find that here: http://howto.pilot-link.org/bluesync/ I'll expand a few more sections specifically on that in the future revisions. My Thinkpad T42p has onboard bluetooth and hooking it into acpi's events now kicks off a listener for a Fn-F5 keypress for Palm sync and a second audio bridge so I can use my bluetooth headset (a Motorola HS820) as a wireless headphone/mic pair for listening to/recording podcasts or for Skype. Great stuff. David A. Desrosiers desrod at gnu-designs.com http://gnu-designs.com From voytek at sbt.net.au Fri Jun 24 09:19:46 2005 From: voytek at sbt.net.au (Voytek Eymont) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:19:46 +1000 (EST) Subject: ot: transferring files to/from over LAN connection In-Reply-To: <42BC0108.907@metacon.ca> References: <50811.203.102.233.24.1119590228.squirrel@203.102.233.24> <42BBFD09.5070104@metacon.ca> <3235.220.240.54.97.1119617235.squirrel@220.240.54.97> <42BC0108.907@metacon.ca> Message-ID: <3292.220.240.54.97.1119619186.squirrel@220.240.54.97> Ben Steeves said: >>>Voytek Eymont wrote: >>>>now that I have a LAN connection (BT or WiFi), what are my options to >>>>transfer arbitrary/text files to/from the Palm: >>>> >>>>on the Palm ? >>>>on the PC ? >> >> >>>That depends largely on what model handheld you have. >> >> >> T3 with BT and (SDIO)WiFi >> > > The link below should give you some pointers about BT -- WiFi is easiest > to set up with a wireless router. > > http://www.metacon.ca/bcs/view.php?page=bluetooth Ben, thanks. I think I didn't explain properly: I can network the T3, either via BT to a windoze PC, or, via WiFi to a router, that part works fine (problem with using WiFi, I no longer have storage card..) but, is there some ftp client that will allow me to transfer say text files to/from the Palm to a remote server ? or how can I do that ? -- Voytek From hacker at gnu-designs.com Fri Jun 24 09:24:43 2005 From: hacker at gnu-designs.com (David A. Desrosiers) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: ot: transferring files to/from over LAN connection In-Reply-To: <3292.220.240.54.97.1119619186.squirrel@220.240.54.97> References: <50811.203.102.233.24.1119590228.squirrel@203.102.233.24> <42BBFD09.5070104@metacon.ca> <3235.220.240.54.97.1119617235.squirrel@220.240.54.97> <42BC0108.907@metacon.ca> <3292.220.240.54.97.1119619186.squirrel@220.240.54.97> Message-ID: > but, is there some ftp client that will allow me to transfer say > text files to/from the Palm to a remote server ? or how can I do > that ? No, there is not. PalmOS cannot handle "text files" in RAM or ROM on the device. You'll have to convert the text files to another Record or Resource format db and send those instead (for example, converting a text file to a Plucker document and send that Foo.pdb to your Palm over Wifi or Bluetooth). If you had an external storage card you could do it (using Bluetooth only, because your SD slot wouldn't be able to house a Wifi card if you have the storage card in it). David A. Desrosiers desrod at gnu-designs.com http://gnu-designs.com From voytek at sbt.net.au Fri Jun 24 10:22:50 2005 From: voytek at sbt.net.au (Voytek Eymont) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:22:50 +1000 (EST) Subject: ot: transferring files to/from over LAN connection In-Reply-To: References: <50811.203.102.233.24.1119590228.squirrel@203.102.233.24> <42BBFD09.5070104@metacon.ca> <3235.220.240.54.97.1119617235.squirrel@220.240.54.97> <42BC0108.907@metacon.ca> <3292.220.240.54.97.1119619186.squirrel@220.240.54.97> Message-ID: <61483.220.240.54.97.1119622970.squirrel@220.240.54.97> David A. Desrosiers said: > >> but, is there some ftp client that will allow me to transfer say >> text files to/from the Palm to a remote server ? or how can I do >> that ? > > No, there is not. PalmOS cannot handle "text files" in RAM or > ROM on the device. You'll have to convert the text files to another > Record or Resource format db and send those instead (for example, > converting a text file to a Plucker document and send that Foo.pdb to > your Palm over Wifi or Bluetooth). > > If you had an external storage card you could do it (using > Bluetooth only, because your SD slot wouldn't be able to house a Wifi > card if you have the storage card in it). yes, what Palm app can i use for that, to transfer a text file to sd card ? -- Voytek From hacker at gnu-designs.com Fri Jun 24 10:27:40 2005 From: hacker at gnu-designs.com (David A. Desrosiers) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:27:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: ot: transferring files to/from over LAN connection In-Reply-To: <61483.220.240.54.97.1119622970.squirrel@220.240.54.97> References: <50811.203.102.233.24.1119590228.squirrel@203.102.233.24> <42BBFD09.5070104@metacon.ca> <3235.220.240.54.97.1119617235.squirrel@220.240.54.97> <42BC0108.907@metacon.ca> <3292.220.240.54.97.1119619186.squirrel@220.240.54.97> <61483.220.240.54.97.1119622970.squirrel@220.240.54.97> Message-ID: > yes, what Palm app can i use for that, to transfer a text file to sd > card ? pilot-xfer can do it, using the -D option, if you use any version newer than the 0.11.x series (0.12.0-pre4 is the newest). David A. Desrosiers desrod at gnu-designs.com http://gnu-designs.com From voytek at sbt.net.au Fri Jun 24 10:40:04 2005 From: voytek at sbt.net.au (Voytek Eymont) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:40:04 +1000 (EST) Subject: ot: transferring files to/from over LAN connection In-Reply-To: References: <50811.203.102.233.24.1119590228.squirrel@203.102.233.24> <42BBFD09.5070104@metacon.ca> <3235.220.240.54.97.1119617235.squirrel@220.240.54.97> <42BC0108.907@metacon.ca> <3292.220.240.54.97.1119619186.squirrel@220.240.54.97> <61483.220.240.54.97.1119622970.squirrel@220.240.54.97> Message-ID: <61508.220.240.54.97.1119624004.squirrel@220.240.54.97> David A. Desrosiers said: > >> yes, what Palm app can i use for that, to transfer a text file to sd >> card ? > > pilot-xfer can do it, using the -D option, if you use any > version newer than the 0.11.x series (0.12.0-pre4 is the newest). is there any Palm apps that can do it ? -- Voytek From hacker at gnu-designs.com Fri Jun 24 11:00:11 2005 From: hacker at gnu-designs.com (David A. Desrosiers) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:00:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: ot: transferring files to/from over LAN connection In-Reply-To: <61508.220.240.54.97.1119624004.squirrel@220.240.54.97> References: <50811.203.102.233.24.1119590228.squirrel@203.102.233.24> <42BBFD09.5070104@metacon.ca> <3235.220.240.54.97.1119617235.squirrel@220.240.54.97> <42BC0108.907@metacon.ca> <3292.220.240.54.97.1119619186.squirrel@220.240.54.97> <61483.220.240.54.97.1119622970.squirrel@220.240.54.97> <61508.220.240.54.97.1119624004.squirrel@220.240.54.97> Message-ID: > is there any Palm apps that can do it ? So you're looking for an on-Palm app that can fetch a text file from the Internet and store it on an SD card? Try lftp or lget: http://www.freewarepalm.com/communication/lftp.shtml http://www.freewarepalm.com/communication/lget.shtml David A. Desrosiers desrod at gnu-designs.com http://gnu-designs.com From tpe at ida.liu.se Fri Jun 24 14:23:21 2005 From: tpe at ida.liu.se (Tommy Persson) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:23:21 +0200 (CEST) Subject: ot: transferring files to/from over LAN connection In-Reply-To: <61508.220.240.54.97.1119624004.squirrel@220.240.54.97> (voytek@sbt.net.au) References: <50811.203.102.233.24.1119590228.squirrel@203.102.233.24> <42BBFD09.5070104@metacon.ca> <3235.220.240.54.97.1119617235.squirrel@220.240.54.97> <42BC0108.907@metacon.ca> <3292.220.240.54.97.1119619186.squirrel@220.240.54.97> <61483.220.240.54.97.1119622970.squirrel@220.240.54.97> <61508.220.240.54.97.1119624004.squirrel@220.240.54.97> Message-ID: <200506241823.j5OINLjQ022155@gedrix.ida.liu.se> > > is there any Palm apps that can do it ? > I am using WiFile Pro for this. It can use Samba or ftp. Actually I am using this program to copy files from a Compact Flash card to an external USB-disk using my T5 and an Netgear wireless router with USB-connection (where a USB hub and and USB disk and an CF card reader are connected). /Tommy Persson From marklist at healeyonline.com Fri Jun 24 21:31:03 2005 From: marklist at healeyonline.com (Mark Healey) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:31:03 -0700 Subject: Can't build emulator In-Reply-To: <0b1d063b4be82ead2d7788246fbd2dbb@users.sourceforge.net> References: <42BB3199.9030708@healeyonline.com> <44838.80.177.68.177.1119566558.squirrel@secure.acu.ac.uk> <42BB45F5.6010509@healeyonline.com> <42BBB973.2060205@healeyonline.com> <0b1d063b4be82ead2d7788246fbd2dbb@users.sourceforge.net> Message-ID: <42BCB3D7.2060505@healeyonline.com> John Marshall wrote: > On Jun 24, 2005, at 19:42, Mark Healey wrote: > >> David A. Desrosiers wrote: >> >>> You'll have to do some heavy patching to get it working with the >>> recent fltk and the conflicting gzip() function you'll get in the >>> recent headers your system will call. > > > The patches needed are not so terrifying, and are available from the > Sourceforge project. The relevant thread on the relevant mailing list > (namely emulator-forum) is > > http://news.palmos.com/read/messages?id=189359 > > (I am unfamiliar with the gzip() problem you mention.) > >>> Why are you not using the rpm for Fedora? Why are you building >>> from source? > > [...] > >> Because it isn't mentioned on any of the individuals sites I looked at >> or on the Palmsource site. > > > Sigh. In the past, PalmSource's emulator page linked to Pose RPMs, but > removing any useful Unix-related emulator details has been another of > the "improvements" that came with the most recent reorganisation of > their developer site. > > However I wonder if http://prc-tools.sourceforge.net/ was one of the > individual sites you looked at. The information you are looking for is > on the "Installation for RPM users" page. > >> ]yum list palm > > [...] > >> If there is a complete development package I'll go for it. > > > If your yum still understands the old yum repository format, you can add > http://prc-tools.sourceforge.net/install/ to your /etc/yum.repos or > whatever it's called, and yum will be able to see pose, pilrc, > prc-tools, etc RPMs. > > In any case, pre-built pose RPMs are available from > http://sourceforge.net/projects/pose/ (and that site appears on the > first page of Google results for various Palm OS Emulator searches), and > are accessible via rpmfind.net. They were built on Red Hat 7.3, but > still work fine on Fedora. They don't here. [root]# rpm -ivh pose-3.5-2.i386.rpm Gets me: pose-3.5-2.i386.rpm: not an rpm package (or package manifest): -- Mark Healey marklist at healeyonline.com From hacker at gnu-designs.com Fri Jun 24 21:47:01 2005 From: hacker at gnu-designs.com (David A. Desrosiers) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:47:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Can't build emulator In-Reply-To: <42BCB3D7.2060505@healeyonline.com> References: <42BB3199.9030708@healeyonline.com> <44838.80.177.68.177.1119566558.squirrel@secure.acu.ac.uk> <42BB45F5.6010509@healeyonline.com> <42BBB973.2060205@healeyonline.com> <0b1d063b4be82ead2d7788246fbd2dbb@users.sourceforge.net> <42BCB3D7.2060505@healeyonline.com> Message-ID: > [root]# rpm -ivh pose-3.5-2.i386.rpm > > Gets me: > > pose-3.5-2.i386.rpm: not an rpm package (or package manifest): You didn't right-click and download the wrong link target, did you? Sourceforge blocks that behavior and forces you to their javascript meta refresh dreck page. You should have something that matches the following when running file(1) and md5sum(1) on the rpm you downloaded: $ file pose-3.5-2.i386.rpm && md5sum pose-3.5-2.i386.rpm pose-3.5-2.i386.rpm: RPM v3 bin i386 pose-3.5-2 88432746ad1e4462df1c0362ace37e90 pose-3.5-2.i386.rpm David A. Desrosiers desrod at gnu-designs.com http://gnu-designs.com From jmarshall at users.sourceforge.net Sun Jun 26 19:55:27 2005 From: jmarshall at users.sourceforge.net (John Marshall) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:55:27 +1200 Subject: Can't build emulator In-Reply-To: References: <42BB3199.9030708@healeyonline.com> <44838.80.177.68.177.1119566558.squirrel@secure.acu.ac.uk> <42BB45F5.6010509@healeyonline.com> <42BBB973.2060205@healeyonline.com> <0b1d063b4be82ead2d7788246fbd2dbb@users.sourceforge.net> Message-ID: On Jun 25, 2005, at 0:54, David A. Desrosiers wrote: >> (I am unfamiliar with the gzip() problem you mention.) > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=303199 I suppose it might be interesting to figure out why we^H^HI don't see this on Fedora :-) > There is a new "emulator" being developed for the ARM and > Cobalt line of devices which runs on Linux, but its VERY rough at the > moment, and non-free (costs $99 to join the program to gain access to > it). I assume BTW that this "Janeiro" ARM emulator shares no code with Poser, and so isn't covered by Poser's GPL. And I assume that in fact there's no other reasons why it would be under a license like the GPL, and that it's closed source and there's no source code available to look at. And that it's really got nothing to do with our much beloved Palm OS Emulator at all (other than the obvious -- that it emulates Palm OS devices). Or am I being too cynical? :-) I'm curious as to how they've packaged it on Linux, but I'm not curious enough to pay USD 150 to find out. (That's the current one-year price on their Inside Track page.) John From hacker at gnu-designs.com Sun Jun 26 21:14:59 2005 From: hacker at gnu-designs.com (David A. Desrosiers) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:14:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Can't build emulator In-Reply-To: References: <42BB3199.9030708@healeyonline.com> <44838.80.177.68.177.1119566558.squirrel@secure.acu.ac.uk> <42BB45F5.6010509@healeyonline.com> <42BBB973.2060205@healeyonline.com> <0b1d063b4be82ead2d7788246fbd2dbb@users.sourceforge.net> Message-ID: > And that it's really got nothing to do with our much beloved Palm OS > Emulator at all (other than the obvious -- that it emulates Palm OS > devices). From what I understand, it barely does even that ;) And add to that the fact that Keith has moved on, who would maintain the codebase, even if it were available in some OSI-approved license format? Not me, and probably not you... > I'm curious as to how they've packaged it on Linux, but I'm not > curious enough to pay USD 150 to find out. (That's the current > one-year price on their Inside Track page.) Agreed... let's get feedback from the people who start complaining that Palm is moving to Linux, but all their tools aren't available to extend/fix/hack/improve, under the same terms as most of the Linux environment ;) David A. Desrosiers desrod at gnu-designs.com http://gnu-designs.com From marklist at healeyonline.com Thu Jun 30 02:46:04 2005 From: marklist at healeyonline.com (Mark Healey) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 23:46:04 -0700 Subject: Where are the roms and skins Message-ID: <42C3952C.1090900@healeyonline.com> I installed the prc-tools and the docs, but for the life of me I can't find the roms anywhere, not from the package or from Palmsource. Getting it from my Kyocera 7135 is hopeless. Where do I get them? -- Mark Healey marklist at healeyonline.com